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This register named ASML's third-quarter results as the document that would settle a nine-day-old claim about Korean parts prices. The results published at 1:00 a.m. Eastern and do not contain the words spare parts, price increase or Korea. The claim is exactly where it was on Monday, and that is worth printing.

The feature

Every entry on this register carries a line called settles it: the document that would turn the claim into a fact or a denial, named in advance so that nobody can move the goalposts afterwards. Entry 24's line, written on Monday, named a date. ASML's third-quarter results and call, Wednesday 14 October, "and specifically whether the Korean parts book was repriced and whether that increase sits inside the year's guidance."

The results published at 07:00 Central European Time, which is 1:00 a.m. Eastern this morning. The call ran at 09:00 Eastern. This is what happened to the claim: nothing.

The claim, as printed. ASML has told Samsung Electronics and SK hynix, through its South Korean subsidiary, that prices on all replacement parts supplied into South Korea — extreme-ultraviolet and deep-ultraviolet alike, covering optical lenses and mirrors, light sources and precision actuators — will rise by ten percent on deliveries from January 2027, the notification having been made in early September, and both companies have accepted. Per The Elec, as named by TrendForce, and per Global Economic of Seoul, which credits Wccftech. Neither ASML nor either customer has said anything on the record.

The trail, as it stood last night. The first dated sighting this desk could read is Global Economic of Seoul at 8:32 p.m. Eastern on Saturday 10 October, reporter Kim Ju-won. The report The Elec is said to have run first refused this desk's reader twice and has no established minute, which is why the trail's head is dated by its relays. Through Sunday and Monday the claim moved outward in the usual shape: two relays naming no original outlet, one adding that the buyers accepted "in full" after consulting their purchasing departments; TrendForce on Monday, careful where its relays were not, using the word "accepted" exactly once and hedged; DigiTimes and Seeking Alpha the same day as headlines readable only through a search index. At 8:25 a.m. Eastern on Monday it reached Newsquawk's squawk feed, which is the moment a trade-press item becomes something dealing desks have seen before the bell. No mainstream American outlet has carried it in three sessions.

What the document says. Record net sales of €11.7 billion against €9,326 million in the second quarter. Net income €5.0 billion, basic earnings €12.95 a share, gross margin 57.5 percent — above guidance and a company record. Fourth-quarter guidance of €14.2 to €15.2 billion; the full year at €44 to €45 billion. No net bookings figure in the release at all. And the sentence the market will carry: supply as currently planned "for both 2027 and 2028 will not fully meet the demand of our customers," with the company investigating capacity above the thirty percent increase already communicated, and Christophe Fouquet saying that "some customers are expressing an interest in placing orders with us for 2029 and even 2030."

What the document does not say. Spare parts. Replacement parts. Price increases on parts. Korea. None of those words appears in the release. The line that would carry a parts repricing if anything did is Installed Base Management — net service and field option sales — which came in at €3.3 billion against €2.8 billion in the second quarter, €400 million above guidance. ASML attributes that beat to demand for productivity upgrades, and publishes no separate figure for either upgrades or parts. A number that is above guidance for a stated reason is not evidence for a different reason.

On the call the word pricing appears once in a form that matters, and it is value-based pricing, not parts. The chief financial officer said the company had "completed those conversations" and that "that's been done with the key customers," adding that the effect is not visible in 2026 and "will start partly in 2027." Korea is not mentioned. SK hynix is not mentioned. Samsung is mentioned once, on using High NA in high-volume manufacturing from 2028.

This is the part the desk has to get right. That CFO passage has the shape of the claim: pricing conversations, concluded, with key customers, biting from 2027. A desk in a hurry would print it as corroboration. It is not. It names no percentage, no product category, no country and no month, and value-based pricing on systems is a different thing from a ten percent uplift on a replacement-parts book. What the desk has is a tier-1 document that passes within a few feet of the claim and does not touch it. That is a documented negative — worth printing precisely because it is the kind of near-miss that gets rounded up into a confirmation by the fourth relay.

The highest tier reached is still 4. Trade press, twice, plus a squawk feed. The claim has two independent surfaces by the test as written, and the doubt recorded on Monday still stands: Global Economic credits Wccftech and TrendForce credits The Elec, and whether those are two reports or one report in two coats could not be established.

The market's testimony, and the first sworn move on this entry. Tuesday's New York close is $1,717.76, sworn — stockanalysis.com carries it as today's previous close and Investing.com's account of the call carries it as the regular-session close, down 1.86 percent. Against Friday 9 October's close of $1,780.34, the last settled price before the claim existed and sworn in No. 19, that is minus $62.58, or minus 3.52 percent, this desk's arithmetic with both ends sworn. It is the first move this entry has been able to swear, and the desk prints immediately that it is not attributable to the claim: the window from Friday to Tuesday contains the CXMT repricing that took eleven and fourteen percent out of ASML's two largest memory customers, which is a better explanation of a lithography maker's three percent than a parts notice from September.

Today the tape does something stranger. The after-hours print on Investing.com's page after the release was $1,679, down 2.26 percent, one feed. By 10:53 a.m. Eastern the New York line was $1,717.83, up seven cents, unchanged to two decimal places on the day, on volume of 1,115,825 — the overnight discount handed back in full, which is this desk's arithmetic at plus 2.31 percent from 1,679. Amsterdam, read on one feed at a page stamp of 07:19:36 with no zone given, had €1,532.20, up 1.50 percent against a previous close of €1,509.60. Record quarter, a supply warning through 2028, and a stock that finished the morning exactly where it started. Nothing in that says anything about Korean spare parts, and the desk does not pretend otherwise.

What would settle it now. Not another earnings call: ASML does not break out parts revenue and nobody asked. The documents are narrower and later. The January 2027 deliveries themselves, priced on an invoice. Korean customs unit values on lithography-parts imports from January, which are published and which no relay has looked at. Samsung's and SK hynix's own cost commentary at their third-quarter calls later this month. Or the simplest thing in the world, which is ASML Korea, Samsung or SK hynix saying on the record that no across-the-board increase was proposed.

Lag: blank, and running at three sessions. Status: corroborated, unchanged. The desk named a document, the document arrived on the day it was supposed to, and the claim is exactly where it was on Monday. That is not a failure of the method; it is the method reporting that a scheduled occasion is not the same thing as an answer. The reason to write it down is that by Friday somebody will have published "ASML confirms price increases" over a transcript that confirms nothing of the kind.

The trail: entry 24, from a Seoul weekend to a document that missed it
The trail: entry 24, from a Seoul weekend to a document that missed it

Also in motion

Entry 26 · CXMT's 4F-square server DRAM. Yesterday's feature, and today it acquired its first company response — from the wrong company. At the 28th semiconductor exhibition in Seoul, Song Jai-hyuk, Samsung's president and chief technology officer, was asked by reporters whether Samsung is developing 4F-square and said yes, adding that the company is "working hard at it"; the remark is carried by ZDNet Korea, The Asia Business Daily, EDaily and the Seoul Economic Daily. That is a tier-2 event and it does not move this entry, because it is a statement about Samsung and the claim is about CXMT. Two things did sharpen. The Seoul Economic Daily dates CXMT's announcement to 10 October, reports the module as 4F-square combined with hybrid bonding, and states plainly what has not been disclosed: capacity, performance, a release date, a mass-production schedule. And the analyst layer arrived — Kwon Seok-joon of Sungkyunkwan, who notes the announcement contains neither "mass production" nor "samples" and expects meaningful volume no earlier than late 2027; Jordan Klein of Mizuho, on the record that he "would not be selling or in a panic"; Jing Jie Yu of Morningstar on longer-term oversupply risk; CW Chung of Nomura on stopgap measures under equipment restrictions. Commentary on a claim is not a surface for it. Lag closed at zero on Monday and stays closed. Status unchanged.

Entry 18 · the 2027 sell-out. Fiftieth session, no mainstream American headline, no new sighting, no denial. The claim that all 2027 DRAM and high-bandwidth memory output is already sold now carries the longest open lag on this register, and the week has spent itself arguing about the other side of it.

Entry 25 · Samsung's HBM4E through Nvidia's gate. Added yesterday at a lag of one trading day. Samsung spent today showing its AI memory stack at the same exhibition where its chief technology officer answered the 4F-square question, and said nothing further about qualification. No new sighting; status unchanged.

Entries 20 and 6 · TSMC, tomorrow. Entry 20 expired on 9 October after 197 sessions without a mainstream American headline; entry 6's capacity figures closed on 28 September. Both have their first scheduled occasion at TSMC's third-quarter call tomorrow. Today's release raises the stakes on the second: a supplier telling the market that 2027 and 2028 supply will not meet demand is the upstream half of a capacity question TSMC will be asked downstream.

Resolved

Nothing, for the second issue running, and the desk states the reason rather than leaving it to look like inattention. Entry 24's settling document published this morning and did not address the claim, which is reported in the feature and is not a resolution in either direction. No other rumor on this register reached a document, a denial or an expiry since The Whisper, No. 20. Today's re-checks of the entries not named above were done by the general sweep — the Korean, Chinese and Taiwanese business press, the trade press, ASML's own investor pages and the American market pages — and not by an individual re-read of each trail; nothing in that sweep touched them. The running lags on entries 5, 9, 10, 11, 18, 22 and 24 advance one session each, to 21, 18, 15, 15, 50, 9 and 3; entry 26's lag closed at zero on Monday and does not advance.

Seen, not printed

Counted by category, with no names and no claims.

Single-surface trade-press items, no market signal: four. Supply-chain and demand reports seen on one outlet each. One is a peak-season cut signalled by a named chairman, which makes it a statement rather than a rumor and puts it in the next category.

Company statements and executive remarks: seven. An exhibition floor is a document factory: chief executives and chief technology officers answering reporters on the record all day. Documents, not rumors, however new the information.

Named analyst commentary on a claim already printed here: five. Four brokerage or academic views on the CXMT claim and one market-share estimate. An analyst's opinion about a rumor is not a surface for the rumor, and this register does not let the two blur.

Aggregator relays: eleven. Pages restating a report they cite. Repetition is not a surface.

Merger, takeover or bankruptcy talk: none. Nothing cleared the wire-halt-filing test.

Social and forum posts: not swept. Second session running. Recorded as not run rather than counted at zero, and the repetition named rather than let pass twice in silence.

The lag: every rumor on the register, first sighting to first mainstream US headline
The lag: every rumor on the register, first sighting to first mainstream US headline

What would settle it

Thursday 15 October — TSMC's third-quarter results and call. Entry 20's January 2027 escalator and entry 6's 2nm and CoWoS figures, put to the company that would know, and now with ASML's supply warning sitting upstream of the same question.

Late October — Samsung Electronics' and SK hynix's third-quarter results and calls. The other side of entries 18, 22, 24 and 25. A memory maker's cost commentary is where a ten percent parts increase would surface if it exists, and a divisional breakdown is where HBM4E qualification either appears or does not.

From January — Korean customs unit values on lithography-parts imports. Published, granular, and so far unexamined by anybody carrying entry 24's claim. If the parts book was repriced ten percent, it shows up there whether or not a company ever says so.

Before 31 December — CXMT's own deadline. A DDR5 registered module on the 4F-square architecture with a part number and a server customer, or the year ends without one.

Sources and data notes

Every sighting with its outlet and the minute observed, Eastern unless stated. Every price with its feed. The desk's arithmetic with inputs.

The document. ASML's third-quarter release, investor.asml.com, published 07:00 Central European Time Wednesday 14 October, metadata stamp 05:00 UTC, read at 11:07 a.m. Eastern; the investor call at 15:00 CET, 09:00 Eastern. Figures as quoted: €11,662 million net sales, €4,960 million net income, €12.95 basic earnings a share, 57.5 percent gross margin, €3,289 million Installed Base Management against €2,800 million in the second quarter, 113 new and 8 used systems, fourth-quarter guidance €14.2 to €15.2 billion at about 57 percent, full year €44 to €45 billion at about 56 percent. No net bookings figure in the release. Call content and the chief financial officer's pricing passage from Investing.com's transcript page, published 02:21 a.m. with no time zone stated, read at 11:08 a.m.; the page carries its own note that it was produced with machine assistance and reviewed by an editor, and the desk treats the quoted passage as a transcript relay rather than as the transcript.

Entry 24's trail, as logged here and re-read today: Global Economic of Seoul, 8:32 p.m. Eastern Saturday 10 October, reporter Kim Ju-won; Digital Citizen 2:57 p.m. Sunday; BigGo Finance 10:35 p.m. Sunday; GuruFocus 7:58 a.m. Monday, logged as a decoy; Newsquawk 8:25 a.m. Monday, published 8:45; TrendForce, DigiTimes and Seeking Alpha on Monday without minutes; TradingKey on Tuesday, counted as a relay. The Elec's original refused this desk's reader and has no established minute.

Entry 26's additions today. Seoul Economic Daily, 18:45:10 KST, updated 19:11:02, read 11:21 a.m. Eastern; Sammy Fans, 09:24:14 UTC, crediting ZDNet Korea, read 11:11 a.m.; The Asia Business Daily and EDaily headlines from the search index, no minutes; Invezz, 9:07 a.m., byline Vatsala Gaur, read 11:19 a.m., carrying Kwon Seok-joon, Jordan Klein of Mizuho, Jing Jie Yu of Morningstar, CW Chung of Nomura via Nikkei Asia, and Counterpoint Research's estimate of CXMT at ten percent of global DRAM in the second quarter against four a year earlier.

Sworn. ASML's Tuesday 13 October New York close, $1,717.76 — stockanalysis.com's quote page, carried as the previous close at 10:53 a.m. today, and Investing.com's transcript page, carried as the regular-session close at minus 1.86 percent. Friday 9 October's close of $1,780.34 is sworn in The Whisper, No. 19, on stockanalysis.com's history and an 11 October price note citing Twelve Data.

One feed, not sworn. ASML after hours at $1,679, minus 2.26 percent, minus $38.76, Investing.com's transcript page. ASML in New York at $1,717.83, up $0.07, volume 1,115,825, stockanalysis.com read at 10:53 a.m. Eastern, the page's own stamp. ASML in Amsterdam at €1,532.20, up 1.50 percent against a previous close of €1,509.60, Investing.com's equity page, page stamp 07:19:36 with no time zone given, read at 11:17 a.m.; the page carries its own warning that its data may not be real-time.

This desk's arithmetic. 1,717.76 less 1,780.34 is minus 62.58; divided by 1,780.34, minus 3.52 percent. 1,717.83 against 1,679 is plus 2.31 percent. 1,717.83 against 1,717.76 is seven cents. Entry 18's fifty sessions run from Tuesday 4 August to today, weekends and the 7 September holiday excluded.

Documented negatives. The words spare parts, replacement parts, price increase and Korea do not appear in ASML's third-quarter release, which the desk read in full. Korea and SK hynix are not mentioned on the call as the transcript relay carries it; Samsung is mentioned once, on High NA from 2028. No ASML, Samsung or SK hynix statement on the ten percent claim appears in any page read today.

The chronicle and the register. The Decoy Chronicle read at 11:04 a.m. today at 218 entries logged and 143 documented, up from 216 and 141 yesterday; no decoy was logged in today's sweep and the count is carried unchanged. The Whisper Register: 26 rumors tracked at the start of this issue and 26 after — no claim cleared the floor today that was not already on it. Confirmed 3, denied 0, expired 1, open 22. Median lag of resolved rumors, 0.

The Decoy Chronicle — every entry, dated and sourced — is published as a standing register and updated with each issue.

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